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Did dragons ever exist?

November 17, 2009 by  
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if you got dinosaurs and other animals why not dragons they had flying dinosaurs pterodactyl and stuff

if it didnt have the magic and fire breathing couldnt a dragon possibly be a very very big pterodactyl it looks somewhat similar to a dinosaur and it flies, and dragons were described as flying dinosaurs
if modern birds are related to pterodactyls something had to have been inbetween pterodactyls and modern birds.

something had to have lived on after the dinosaurs to get birds since they are related otherwise there would be nothing related to dinosaurs
im not talking about komodo dragons, im not talking abou lizards

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22 Responses to “Did dragons ever exist?”
  1. waffleage says:

    No dragons wern’t real. they were made up, i read about it awhile ago, Unicorns wern’t real either.

  2. SheSimplyWillNotDie says:

    I personally believe that there very well could have been Dragons. I mean dinosaurs and dragons really are not that much different. I’m not sure that they were around when any people were around like they show in certain movies ( like Beowulf for example) but I think that there is a strong possibility that dragons could have existed.

  3. svenny22 says:

    i dunno. i think they were real.

  4. P.S. says:

    they brought crocodiles to england during the dark ages to show them to the king. These came from Egypt of course, and were enormous specimens.
    Some or all of them escaped, and they tore through the streets of London on a bloodthirsty, deadly rampage, killing, biting, and shredding everything they could get their teeth on.
    Well, people thought that these alligators were dragons. The average Londonite had never heard of Crox, let alone SEEN them.
    So to millions of Brits, dragons were certainly real, and a few unlucky ones even got to see what a the inside of a dragon’s belly looked like.

  5. cer448 says:

    Komodo Dragons still exist, dragon is the another way to say reptile.

  6. criophix says:

    In all actuality dragons were only real in the minds of the people but in all reality they were bones of long dead dinosaurs which were exposed. People went OMG there are bones and you see this big head sticking out so what do you think it would be at first. The mind starts to create storys and theorys and notions.

    There currently is no avalible evidence to say that dragons did not for certain exsist. Though we have never found supporting evidence that they do exsist besides multiple cultures mentioning dragons in their text.

    Dragons go back all the way to Tiamat in Ancient Sumerian and can be found in the tablets of creation which are the oldest written tablets to be found yet. Every culture since then has had dragons. Ironicly enough Assyrian and Sumarians both had this belief and there was a dig done in present day romania which had mentioned dragons in it dating back quite some time.

    I would also say its possible for your claim though not probable of a winged dinosaur to be sighted and that sighting to be pasted down. Though the last ice age would have killed more than likely any surviving species if man were around he could transfered the story.

  7. PIKA says:

    I’ve always thought the same , only just recently they have discovered that dinosaurs that we thought had leathery reptilian skin actually had feathers, the ones made famous in Jurassic park, the smallish vicious ones. i saw on pbs last week.
    although the dinosaurs existed in a differant time period than man began to exist. well as far as fossils & such have been found. (perhaps they were all digested by dragons?)

  8. Sensei says:

    Nope

  9. ... says:

    in our imaginations

  10. shiariryu says:

    If you want a wyvern, those are technically possible, but would need to be small.

    Equally, there is a chance for biological plausibility for the eastern dragons too.

    However, the 4 legged, 2 winged beasties of yore are NOT plausible for this planet. Why? Because they would be hexapodal vertebrates. The vertebrates of this planet have a maximum of 4 legs. There are no fossils, no extant species, of vertebrates with 6 full functional limbs. While we do see extra limbs via mutation every now and then, those limbs do not function, and would be detrimental to any creature that had the potential to fly.

  11. asu_mikey says:

    I think dinosaur bones started the myth of the dragon.

    Of course story telling was the main form of entertainment, and if you discover dinosaur bones you’re gonna make a story.

    However history shows various civilizations refer to commone large reptiles as dragons.

  12. ©??dM?$tE® says:

    Could be true. So this is you evolution theory

    Pterodactyls- Dragons- Modern Birds?

    My question is, How can a pterodactyl eveolve into a even larger creature before sprouting feathers and becoming a small birdey?

    I dont think that Dragons are remotely related to pterodactyls and modern-day birds.

    Dragons were probably a completely different species and lived way before the first Dinosaur even layed eyes on earth!!

  13. kilroymaster says:

    Well there are many archaeologist that place their careers on the line as to the facts that the skeletons remains that they have dug up are what is left of a dragon… And many museums that want to put their reputation on the line has to agreed to accept them.. So yes there was at one time dragons.. That were very real and yes they were hunted into extinction… Also you will always find non-believers and that is why the people of this earth seem to act so stupid when the things they never believed it turns out to be true………

  14. jazzabell says:

    Well besides the komodo dragon, I believe that people mistaken dinosaurs for Dragons and that maybe all of them did not die of in the ice age but a couple survived . Or the chance that when people were digging along time ago they might have come across dinosaurs bones and made up tales about them to explain them to people

  15. spibbles says:

    Modern birds aren’t closely related to pterodactyls. Birds are almost certainly more closely related to raptors (you know, the nasty smart dinosaurs from Jurassic Park).

    Also, pterodactyls aren’t technically dinosaurs.

    Thirdly, and most importantly, the latest dinosaurs missed the earliest humans by over 60 million years. It could very well be that fossilized dinosaur bones played a part in the construction of the dragon myth, but it’s unlikely that the idea of dinosaurs “flying” came from pterodactyls: it’s doubtful that early men could have reconstructed a pterodactyl skeleton, even if it were complete, properly, and realized that it could fly.

  16. Thalia says:

    No, but people used to believe they did.

    The patron saint of the medieval country of Bohemia was Saint George. The cathedral displayed the dragon’s skull as a holy relic, which pilgrims would travel to see.

    You can still see this famous “dragon skull” in Castle Karlsteijn — it actually belongs to a very large Egyptian crocodile. But since people in Medieval Europe knew nothing about crocodiles, it was easily mistaken for a dragon’s head.

  17. rubydragon_63 says:

    I absolutely agree with you: don’t wipe out the evolution of the species. What could have been a dragon in the dinosaur-age or the beast mentioned in so many folktales could have evolved into something else, but with similar characteristics, to survive into our modern age. We still have the crocodile and the shark, who are claimed to be ’survivors’ from the dinosaur-era. We believe that the ancestor or the (modern) shark, specifically the Great White, is the Megalodon, a 55 ft super-predator who swam the Earth’s oceans with an abundance of food. The food got less and they had to adapt to survice and became smaller. If there were still 55ft long sharks out there with a mouth about 6 ft wide, we sure would need bigger boats!

    What catches my attention most in questions about the existance of dragons and the answers of people is that their reasoning is that skeletons were never found as we have of the dinosaurs etc., but not so long ago a plesiasaurus (a sea “serpent”) was found in Japan that is also referred to as a sea-dragon. The remains were almost completely decomposed though. Of all the Dragons that could have existed, and there are different classifications for them, the Sea Dragon (or Sea Serpent) is most likely to have existed or maybe still does. I am not talking about the Loch Ness monster here, but bonifide sea-serpents. We know more about the Universe, the Planets and our Moon, than we do about our own seas and oceans and some are so deep that we don’t even know how to get to the bottom (yet).

    The point I am trying to make with the shark as an example is also that the remains of seafossils were found on land in rocks. Maybe we’re looking in the wrong place for evidence for Dragons? Maybe they are at the bottom of nowadays oceans and seas that used to be land, where we can’t get to them for now. Plus for some species it is hard to find evidence. My earlier mentioned Megalodon is hard to find too, since their skeletons are mainly cartilage and not bone and parts of them are found only by sheer chance (mostly teeth and then only under exceptional circumstance) and enough to get an idea of what it must have looked like. But I have never heard of a full Megalodon skeleton having been found, as we have found of say the Woolly Mammoth, but we still believe it existed.

    Also think about the coelacanth, a prehistoric fish from the Dinosaur-era and thought to be extinct, but we still managed to find living species not so long ago.

    My thought is also: how is it possible that in every (main) culture there are stories/folktales about dragons. And these cultures could not have been in contact with one another because they range from China to the Native Americans and everything in between. Especially the Scandinavians (Vikings) have a vast mythology about Dragons and so do the Chinese. Now where do these stories come from? Could it be that it sprouted from the fanasy of people all over the world, all around the same time? That doesn’t sound plausible to me, so there must have been ’something’. And then I am not talking about people all over the world finding dinosaur bones and claiming them to be dragons, simply because dinosaur bones aren’t found just everywhere but in distinct places and the dragon-stories are also in places where dinosaur fossils weren’t found. Besides, the stories are much older than the knowledge or even the process of archeology and digging for bones.

    In short: I agree that there must have been some sort of evolution in the dragon-species that made them into something similar but with distinct differences and that we don’t yet ‘link’ to the dragons of old. But then again, in order for science to ‘link’ a (modern) species as a descendant of dragons, they would have to have proof of the existence of dragons and that is hard to find.
    Personaly I like to believe they (still) exist as they’re talked about in folklore, but that is my opinion.

    This might be interesting to read, it’s about the different species of dragons and the realism of them ever having existed. It also refers to the dinosaurs and even bats instead of birds, since they have the same leathery wings.
    http://www.blackdrago.com/real.htm

    Add: In april 2007 the Science Channel had a program called : “Dragons, a fantasy made real” where they go over the known facts and try to explain how dragons could have lived, also including the meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs and how they (pre-historic dragons) could have gone to the sea and evolve from there. Thought you might find that interesting to know. Maybe you can find it on their site or maybe they will air it again.

  18. lee S says:

    maybe, check out the library to see what you can find

  19. Rachelle_of_Shangri_La says:

    Most experts on mythology and folklore argue that legends of dragons are based upon ordinary snakes and similar creatures coupled with common psychological fears amongst disparate groups of humans. Dragons may be mental representations of natural human fears of snakes, wildcats, birds of prey, as well as teeth, claws, size, and even venom blending with fear of wildfire.

    Others believe that the dragon may have had a real-life counterpart from which the various legends arose — typically dinosaurs or other archosaurs are mentioned as a possibility — but there is no physical evidence to support this claim, only alleged sightings collected by cryptozoologists. The monitor lizards were the basis of some dragon tales and that the breath of the dragon is the fantastic imagery of the steam from the warm Montane Valley monitors emerging from a body of water into the cold air of some Asian locations.

    Dinosaur and mammalian fossils were occasionally mistaken as the bones of dragons and other mythological creatures — for example, a discovery in 300 BC in Wucheng, Sichuan, China, was labeled as such. However, it is unlikely these finds alone prompted the legends of such monsters, but they may have served to reinforce them.

  20. says:

    Have you seen Dragons a Fantasy Made Real?

    part 1 to part 10 in order.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dragons+a+fantasy+made+real&search_type=

    the next parapraphs I have used for other questions too but I’m working on revising it some.

    there is no “proof” howeven it is possible for dragons to exsist/have exsisted.

    Why wouldn’t they exist?

    IF THEY EXISTED

    now why might they not exist? All of the necessary for a dragon to be created and live are here. http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/Fire.htm
    They would have lived a long time ago and were killed by the KT event. But the water dragon would have lived.
    http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/dragons/index.html
    now they could have moved on land as said in the site and humans would have not liked that much. There would have been fight and nobody lived to tell the story so dragons went into myth and legend. (Sad) But the water dragon could be living at the bottom of the ocean and we have just not found them.

    There fossils could be lost to Earth’s platal movements (convergent boundaries), or we just have not found them.

    Sadly the fossil found on that show Dragons a Fantasy Made Real was not real but there were fossils like that that were so that is one of the factors pointing to dragons. Stories could have been mixed up but dragons still could have lived maybe like the priestoric dragon only four limbs. Perhaps the bacteria said to have powered flight and fire could have ate away any evidence be for it could be fossilized?

    OTHER POSIBILITIES
    There was a big lizard that lived some time ago. People will argue over the number of years so I will not list. It was similar to komodo dragons but much bigger and lived in Australia. People must have been tasty to this lizard because ancient weightings depict this animal and how people stopped it. Setting fire to the plains. They did this in the morning so the lizards would slow to react due to could whether. Other tribes may have seen the lizards moving in large numbers and a big fire. Put two and two together and there’s a dragon for ya.

    One popular theory is that they were dinosaurs, well that’s good but think could dinosaurs be dragons and one more thing maybe a dragon like the chines one existed and stories about it flying came around so others put wings on them. Or maybe a dragon lived in between dinosaurs and birds? The hard thing about dragons is that there is so much that leads to them existing and not existing. The Silk Road was a rout that stories along with goods were passed and may have been misplaced. And to go along with the Greek gods people could have just used dragons to explain un-explanable things (at the time). I do have to include both sides of the facts and possibilities. Also the dinosaurs did not all die at once. We do not know the exact place where the so called KT event happened. But most likely there was some part of the world not as effected and dinos could have survived to some time before dieing out.

    Keep this all in mind and if you want to talk about dragons e-mail me.

    Komodo Dragons are monitor lizards now they may resemble dragons but they where not known about until close to modern time. So despite where dragons could have come from this possibility is closed off.

    So having said all that yes I believe dragons once lived, but they would not still be alive today.

    Source(s):

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...
    http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/Fire.htm
    http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/history/history.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dragons+a+fantasy+made+real&search_type=
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjsGPz.3XgXfYUuwJIj9BDbsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080204041435AAm6hxg

    Whether they were real or not, dragons have been included in history.

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